If you feel that’s accurate, then you should support ending the Trade Embargo and sanctions on the DPRK, as that’s the quickest and surest path to improving quality of life for the people there.
It’s like they think the effects of the trade embargo and sanctions will finally do a 180 and collapse the government, with no actual indication that that will happen despite decades of sanctions and far worse periods of time.
Yep, even if we decided that the DPRK government is utterly evil, sanctions have only strengthened its legitimacy in the eyes of North Koreans. The only goal this is fulfilling is harming the people.
I mean… no, it would be the equivalent of going on a state-sanctioned tour of parts of Germany that weren’t demolished yet, because that’s what you do when you go to DPRK. They don’t take you to labor camps.
Honestly, any tourism revenue made by DPRK is a drop in the ocean compared to what they make off crypto and hacking. If you’re in a position to visit and you’re curious, I don’t see anything particularly wrong with visiting - just be aware you’re getting a carefully-tailored experience, not the whole picture.
comparing the whole country to a concentration camp massively downplays the conditions in concentration camps. I’m sure being a citizen there isn’t fun but it’s still different.
All sanctions on the DPRK have done is strengthen the legitimacy of the government and starve people. Witholding resources hasn’t damaged the government, rather, it has had a uniting effect on the people. Withholding tourist revenue isn’t going to change that, just slow development down.
Because every cent you spend there goes more or less directly into Kim Jong Un’s pocket?
Unless you’re a journalist or investigator or something like that (and North Korea, for some reason, doesn’t seems to love those types). But if you’re just going as a looky-loo: don’t.
No, why would it be
I assume the argument would be giving tourism revenue to an authoritarian state.
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You think one man has made the entire country a death camp?
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If you feel that’s accurate, then you should support ending the Trade Embargo and sanctions on the DPRK, as that’s the quickest and surest path to improving quality of life for the people there.
Shhh stop making sense
It’s like they think the effects of the trade embargo and sanctions will finally do a 180 and collapse the government, with no actual indication that that will happen despite decades of sanctions and far worse periods of time.
Well they’re propagandised sociopaths who think starving a whole nation is justified so long as the nation doesn’t share their politics.
Yep, even if we decided that the DPRK government is utterly evil, sanctions have only strengthened its legitimacy in the eyes of North Koreans. The only goal this is fulfilling is harming the people.
The wests play book, people seriously think starving other people is ok for some reason because they’ve never gone a day without food in their lives.
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I mean… no, it would be the equivalent of going on a state-sanctioned tour of parts of Germany that weren’t demolished yet, because that’s what you do when you go to DPRK. They don’t take you to labor camps.
Honestly, any tourism revenue made by DPRK is a drop in the ocean compared to what they make off crypto and hacking. If you’re in a position to visit and you’re curious, I don’t see anything particularly wrong with visiting - just be aware you’re getting a carefully-tailored experience, not the whole picture.
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comparing the whole country to a concentration camp massively downplays the conditions in concentration camps. I’m sure being a citizen there isn’t fun but it’s still different.
All sanctions on the DPRK have done is strengthen the legitimacy of the government and starve people. Witholding resources hasn’t damaged the government, rather, it has had a uniting effect on the people. Withholding tourist revenue isn’t going to change that, just slow development down.
Because every cent you spend there goes more or less directly into Kim Jong Un’s pocket?
Unless you’re a journalist or investigator or something like that (and North Korea, for some reason, doesn’t seems to love those types). But if you’re just going as a looky-loo: don’t.
Where did you read this ?
Ok, sure, let’s discuss. Tell me where you think any money you would spend in North Korea would ultimately go.
I’m not an expert on that subject.