Since Trump, I’m finding the Lemmy.world experience to be increasingly akin to an echo chamber and it’s quite frankly starting to bore me. (Inb4, I’m a left winger and I don’t like Trump, but I’m much more interested in a good spirited debate or novel points of view than I am in Orange man bad Nazi circle jerks)

If I wanted the same repetitive comments to be upvoted and any different opinion at all to be downvoted and even blocked/banned, I’d have just stayed on Reddit.

Are there any instances where different, opposing and novel points of view are celebrated and debated rather than simply derided and downvoted?

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    A better question is which instances have dominant points of view that actually align with the material reality we inhabit. Difference of opinion is only valuable when the opinion is grounded in factual understanding of the real world. It’s valuable to have different views and interpretation of the facts, but if a view is divorced from reality then it’s just noise.

        • OlgaAbi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 months ago

          I don’t like the state and like the idea of a vanguard party even less and I belive that user to be vanguardist

            • OlgaAbi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              2 months ago

              so you are not a vanguardist?

              or am I wrong about vanguardism being bad?

              please elaborate

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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                2 months ago

                You are wrong about vanguarism being bad because history clear shows that it is the most reliable method for actually combating capitalism. Anarchists refuse to accept this basic reality and continue advocating approaches that have failed time and again for over a century now. It’s quite telling that this ideology exists primarily in the western imperial core.

                • OlgaAbi@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                  2 months ago

                  no, I just think that freedom is more important than defeating capitalism

                  I’d rather take my hrt, guns and free speech over a vanguard, sorry

                  also see how it has worked in russia, how the soviet union has defeated capitalism and how capitalist western germany was almost economically stronger than the entire ussr (including eastern germany)

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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                    2 months ago

                    So, what you’re actually saying you’d rather live under capitalism because it’s not impacting your freedom, and you don’t care about others. Meanwhile, claiming that western Germany was economically stronger than the USSR is another example of you being divorced from reality. It’s the same sort of logic people applied to modern Russia comparing its GDP to Italy. Now, it turns out Russian industrial production is higher than all of the west combined. This is how capitalism rots people brains, they start thinking imaginary numbers are more important than material reality.