What do you think about this graphic?

It should give an easy overview of the architecture of the Fediverse and what it differentiates from old social media.

  • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
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    Mastodon and Lemmy have only limited interoperability. You can’t follow individual users on Lemmy, so most of it is one-way. Mastodon users can post to Lemmy communities by @-ing a specific community, and Lemmy users can then reply as normal and their replies will show up in the Mastodon users feed.

    • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      That’s why I’m always a bit reluctant to have an infographic with Mastodon and Lemmy fully connected. Sure, it’s possible to interact, but it’s not ideal.

      Having another one with Lemmy, Mbin and Piefed servers could be better

      • Snoopy@piefed.social
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        Yeah i do agree but sadjy, there is a reason some of us call it lemmyverse. We can see mastodon’s content.

        Since Lemmy doesn’t really support hashtag, the core of mastodon discoverability, I think switching to a new software is better.

        PieFed plan to support Mastodon this year. They already do it somewhat : you can follow PieFed user and a.gup.pe work well. You can also follow comment or post by setting up an alert.

        Currently, only mbin can do that.

        • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com
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          hashtags don’t work well on the Fediverse, a hashtag doesn’t have an owning instance which means there’s no way to push/pull the content by hashtag

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            On masto that helped me finding new people or thematic discussion. It may not work very well but it does work with boost. From what i was able to achieve with it, it’s an amazing tool 😊

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              yea I mean it’s fun to use and works well if you’re on a large instance like mastodon.social, I use it even on a medium size instance

              but communities/groups work better on the fediverse, and maybe something in between the 2 could be created, some kind of federated version of hashtags

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                I’m not on mastodon social, i use it on

                And hashtag work well. I have a list where i follow hashtag as if i had a community around this keyword.

                If mastodon supported group, they would include lemmy, mbin, piefed support. We can remplace a.gup.pe

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                  like I said, hashtags are fun, but the fact that even if you follow the hashtag it only shows posts that were already federated into your instance confuses people

                  communities/groups will federate the posts for you if you follow, but following a hashtag does not give any federation

                  Even if you could follow hashtags on Lemmy, you would also need to be able to follow users for anything to show up (so that’s 2 big new features required). And since it requires following users, that would also mean a culture shift would be required, you’d need to convince your instance-mates to use their Lemmy accounts to follow people, but people are mostly here to follow communities not people.

                  I’m not against the features being added, I just don’t think they’re going to be as impactful to the Lemmy platform as expected.

                  • Snoopy@piefed.social
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                    Well we would miss lot interesting topics from Mastodon. You may not see the point because english user base is big.

                    Most of our french user base stayed on Reddit or use Mastodon. Art ? Mastodon. News ? Mastodon…

                    So how can we solve that ? On Mastodon, i found lot user posting interesting links. Our left french media are also on mastodon. Should be able to crosspost them here ? :)

                    I went on mastodon, created an account, copy-pasta posted news on various communities, I used hashtag and some users commented on jlai.lu

                    It does works but we need to allow the users the freedom to be followed or not. If they want to be followed, they can follow mastodon users. And that would be the first step to break “locked” software as reddit, twitter.

                    We are more open then Reddit but, for me, i think we are replicating proprietary software organisation. We are still creating clone of twitter, reddit whereas we use a protocole that allow us to achieve much more things.

                    Shouldn’t we try something else where lines between various software is blurred ?