Los foros de internet están desapareciendo porque ahora todo es Reddit y Discord. Y eso es preocupante
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Hubo un tiempo en que los foros de discusión eran nuestras redes sociales. Los usuarios visitaban aquellos que se ajustaban a cierta temática y eso les...
  • Nighed@feddit.ukEnglish
    145·
    4 days ago

    The Reddit style voting/threading is superior of forums though.

    An unfederated Lemmy instance for example would actually be really good.

    • nocturne@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      15·
      4 days ago

      The benefit to a forum is that posts with new comments move to the top. If a Reddit/Lemmy post gets a single new comment it may or may not be seen again by anyone except the OP or of the comment was a reply then to the op of the replied comment.

      Some forums do have up/down votes as well as nested comments.

      • Die4Ever@programming.devEnglish
        71·
        4 days ago

        The benefit to a forum is that posts with new comments move to the top. If a Reddit/Lemmy post gets a single new comment it may or may not be seen again by anyone except the OP or of the comment was a reply then to the op of the replied comment.

        Lemmy does have this actually

        New Comments: Bumps posts to the top when they are created or receive a new reply, analogous to the sorting of traditional forums

        https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/03-votes-and-ranking.html

        and then there’s the “Active” sort, which is kind of a compromise

        Active (default): Calculates a rank based on the score and time of the latest comment, with decay over time

      • Nighed@feddit.ukEnglish
        3·
        4 days ago

        You could force latest comment sort on the posts, but leave the comments sorting to the user.

      • Nighed@feddit.ukEnglish
        41·
        4 days ago

        If you are a company looking for a forum, you want to be able to control it. Unfederated means you can control account access and don’t have to worry about someone going to All and seeing porn etc.

        Federated could work, but you need to make it clear that it’s just a community on a platform.

        • notanapple@lemm.eeEnglish
          51·
          4 days ago

          Discourse already exists (and most big companies use that).

          Also you can see many other things on Reddit or Discord too (or the internet). Im not sure how that is a point against federation. If companies really want to control everything they can create their own instance (like KDE’s lemmy instance).

          They can defederate everyone from their instance to get an “unfederated” instance but again it changes nothing imo.

          In fact defederation is a negative since now you have to worry about new signups, moderation, etc. While in a federated instance, you can leave moderation to other instances and only allow team/company members on your instance. Users can sign up on other instances and still be able to interact with your instance for support, help and other stuff.

          • Nighed@feddit.ukEnglish
            1·
            4 days ago

            In fact defederation is a negative since now you have to worry about new signups, moderation, etc. While in a federated instance, you can leave moderation to other instances and only allow team/company members on your instance.

            They are going to moderate their communities, if its unfederated, you don’t have to worry about moderating (or the lack of) on any other instances communities at all.

            Users can sign up on other instances and still be able to interact with your instance for support, help and other stuff.

            Thats going to be too confusing for a lot of users - they just want to sign up and complain about/discuss things.

            It depends if they are saying, we have a community on lemmy (federation fine) or saying, here is our official forum thing (federation bad)

        • tfm@europe.pubOPEnglish
          23·
          4 days ago

          If you are a company looking for a forum, you want to be able to control it. Unfederated means you can control account access and don’t have to worry about someone going to All and seeing porn etc.

          We’re talking about Reddit. It’s one of the biggest porn sites out there. If anything, it’s way easier to control what your employees see if they are on a company instance.

          Also, which company uses Reddit as their forum? Most of the ones I have seen use Discourse, which is open source but unfortunately not federated.

          Federated could work, but you need to make it clear that it’s just a community on a platform.

          We’re all a big community. I think people get this quickly.

          • Nighed@feddit.ukEnglish
            3·
            4 days ago

            If anything, it’s way easier to control what your employees see if they are on a company instance.

            …that was entirely my point.

            Also, which company uses Reddit as their forum?

            lots of small apps, orgs, communities etc just have a subreddit and a discord server. Lots of bigger companies have official or semi-official subreddits.

            We’re all a big community. I think people get this quickly.

            Someone wanting to get support for their hoover or something may not. they create an account to discuss the pros and cons of certain hoover and see loads of random stuff about American politics and Linux. Their going to get real confused. Most people have heard of reddit now though (and to a lesser extent discord)

        • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
          4·
          4 days ago

          no, its an open source platform just as kbin was a platform. kbin was never a ‘single instance’. my instance started on kbin before migrating to mbin.

          the dev for kbin had personal issues and abandoned it. kbin was forked to mbin with the goal of having a ‘community’ of developers instead of a single one.

          https://joinmbin.org/