Remember when the ISP lobbyist, Tom Wheeler, got put in charge of the FCC, miraculously turned his views around, and passed net neutrality regulations?

I wish that was the case right now.

That’s a fair point, and I suppose the majority of people who use VPN services regularly (outside of a corporate environment) would be the ones to immediately jump ship if such legislation was even mentioned.

Sure, but I’m curious why it hasn’t already happened. Wouldn’t it be spun as “destruction of evidence” or whatever? Or could it be argued that since their “no logs” policy was established prior to any particular suspect utilizing their services, that it would not be destruction of evidence as there would’ve been no evidence to begin with?

I’m genuinely curious, this shit fascinates me.

I’m curious now, though - what’s stopping a US court from ordering all US-based VPN services to retain logs?

I wouldn’t exactly call Tim Berners-Lee a “libertarian tech bro”.

The CEO doesn’t own Proton, for what it’s worth. He may have founded it, but he does not have complete and total control over anything that Proton offers, as some here may believe.

Just FYI, the majority of Proton AG (which includes all Proton services) is owned by a non-profit body called the “Proton Foundation”. This are headed by a board of 5 members, including Andy (CEO) and Tim Berners-Lee (the literal father of the internet as we know it).

Proton is fine.

not-disclosed buyout

That alone would make me jump ship. VPNs need to be transparent about this kind of shit to their paying users.

Edit: FYI, this is in the works https://webhosting.today/2025/01/15/miss-group-prepares-for-sale-what-lies-ahead-for-the-nordic-hosting-giant/

Sure, but companies who employ DRM have argued against that grey area since DRM was a thing. Something something IP/copyright/licensing/whatever bullshit… IMO: fuck you, I bought it, I own it, eat shit.

Removing DRM has always been “illegal”.

However: German concentration camps were legal, while families protecting Jewish citizens from being taken to said concentration camps was strictly illegal.

What’s legal is not always right (ethically and morally), and what’s right is not always legal. Remember that.

It will change. They know they’re gonna have to figure something out about those of us who aren’t paying monthly.

Because some of us bought the lifetime Plex Pass for cheap many years ago and it’s what our family is used to. Plex also passes the “wife test”, and my kids use Plexamp on their phones for music.

Not gonna stop me from ditching Plex in the not-too-distant future though, once I figure out Jellyfin and another local music streaming app that doesn’t have an interface stuck in 1997.