American Militia Members. Where the hell are you? THIS is what you exist for and you are doing NOTHING!

Edit: I’ve only heard “defense against tyranny” as justification for these militias by these militia

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    To be clear, authoritarianism is rampant on both sides of the aisle. The gross resistance to even basic right wing ideology is proof of that (which to be clear I’m not calling Trump basic right wing).

    Left and right, people want to force others to believe what they believe period. If you don’t agree you get attacked.

    We need to stop “fighting” each other, and start listening to each other. Then, instead of fighting amongst ourselves, we can unite against the common threat. Oligarchy, and plutocracy.

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      Step back everyone, we’ve got an Enlightened Centrist here!

      Don’t call for violence, let’s just compromise to allow a little fascism! 🤏

      Nobody here is calling for purging wrong-think. There are very obvious and visible threats to our society from an enclave of people tearing it apart. You’re making a strawman to conflate targeting them with targeting freedom of thought

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      The problem is that right wing ideology, basic or not, supports oligarchy, plutocracy, whatever you want to call it. Calling basic millitant opposition to oppressive structures an issue of “authoritarianism” and then seeking a solution somehow unburdened by the sin of needing to actually stand for itself or against the larger problem at hand is naive and idealistic.

      I do agree that speaking past each other is absolutely a key problem, but speaking against opposition to right-wingers gets in the way of that message.

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        Or maybe the mere fact that you feel that way is more proof of my point, and why we need to fix the communication. I don’t think the left and right are actually that far apart, but identity politics is a wedge movement meant to divide.

        If instead we speak about actual policy, and changes we want to se, we may get more traction working together.

        Also, left and right both support both oligarchy and plutocracy.

        The right sets the conditions for all business to grow which results in people getting rich leaving everyone else behind to fend for themselves. The left set the conditions to decide where exorbitant about of tax dollars go which has proven time and time again to result in nepotism and gross financial mismanagement. See how those broad strokes are simply inflammatory claims?

        Orwells Politics and the English Language is a must read on exactly why this kind of dialogue is exactly what they want us to be having.

        Violence is not the answer though. Not yet. Uncoordinated violence would just result in thousands dead and no change. Watch Les Misérables again if you doubt me.

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          The Left stands for some form of collectivized property ownership, while the Right stands for individual property ownership. Ie, the Left stands broadly for Socialism while the Right broadly stands for Capitalism. These are diametrically opposed.

          The characterization of the left and right you give, conflating taxes with leftism and business with rightism, is an extremely narrow view of Political Economy that sees Capitalism as the only existing option. This is wrong, and confusing for everyone else.

          As for Orwell, I wouldn’t really give much credit to that sex abusing chauvanist. He is celebrated in the West as someone claiming to be on the Left, while working with British intelligence agencies and making lists of suspected Jews and communists, both of which he hated. Everyone should read On Orwell in my opinion.

          Violence is a tool, and a necessary one, sadly. Millitant organization has only ever been the way the Working Classes have been able to gain real victories. Read Blackshirts and Reds and listen to Blowback, Revolution is the only genuine path that has liberated the working classes.

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              Yes. I am a Marxist-Leninist, dirty commie, pinko, whatever you want to call me. You’re on a site made by “commies,” there are a lot of us here.

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                  You’re more than welcome to learn more, but calling people “commie” without a hint of irony will probably just be really funny for everyone else.

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                    Considering that communism is responsible for close to 100 million deaths in the last 100 years vs 20 million by radical right wing views, it’s wild you don’t realize that being a communist is quantifiably worse than being a nazi, and we can all agree that actual Nazis deserve violence.

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      Why should I listen to someone who wants to dehumanize my existence?