• Gsus4@lemmy.one
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    2 years ago

    Major reason not to buy ebooks from amazon: you can’t lend, give, exchange, sell them and you may lose all of them if you anger the right people. They are not yours, you are not buying them, you merely paid for conditioned access to them.

  • Starchiver@programming.dev
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    2 years ago

    This is what I’ve been saying. We don’t even own digital products, all it takes is a server to be taken down or an account to be lost and all you bought is taken away. Pirating also can’t be stealing because we aren’t taking something away from someone else, other people are not deprived of the chance to have this just because we downloaded it.

  • snor10@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    Our current system of copyright is flawed and only serves the interests of corporations.

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      2 years ago

      No, that would harm whoever was in possession of the room at the time (owner or guest).

      This would be more akin to sneaking into a movie theatre to stand in the back and watch.

      But that would still be theft of service.

  • crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 years ago

    Do we really need excuses for pirating media?

    I pirate movies because I think digital access to them is overpriced, goes to the copyright holder instead of the creators, it’s convenient and most importantly because I can.

    I can’t pirate going to the cinema, nor can I afford to build my own, therefore I gladly pay to have a seat and enjoy a movie there.

    Edit: I thought this may be relevant to the movies example I gave. I don’t think movie studios, giving nothing back to society after massive profits are the ones we should debate the morals of stealing with.

  • Talignoram6571@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 years ago

    I will accept my downvotes in advance because what I’m about to say is probably against the mindset of most of the people that come here but:

    Piracy is wrong.

    I say that as someone that pirates. I’m not sure why people have to justify their actions. I know what I’m doing is wrong, I know I’m taking money away from these businesses that run streaming sites, that make movies, write books(this is the one I feel worst about because this is likely taking money directly from creators). But I do it anyway because I’m cheap, I can’t afford it, its easier to pirate stuff, plenty of reasons. But none of them make it morally right, and none of them make it ethically right.

    When we pirate things, we’re pirating entertainment. Entertainment isn’t a right. You don’t need this stuff to survive. Plenty of entertainment is provided for free at libraries, online with free movies and books. Hell, you can go outside, grab a stick and a rock and boom! Free entertainment. Sure, there are people that pirate things like Photoshop to get ahead in their careers or to jumpstart them, I’m not talking to those people. Adobe has done research and they know those people buy their products when they become professionals. I’m talking to the people downloading a movie and somehow morally justifying it. But when it comes down to it, you are taking something that someone paid money to make in an effort to make money off of it. In my mind, there’s no justification for that. Again, I don’t care that you do it, I do it too. But no one is gonna get any points in my mind for stating that somehow what you are doing is right, or that it isn’t stealing because you’re downloading a copy of something. How silly an argument that is. If you take something that someone else expects money for and it isn’t vital to your survival, that is wrong.

    I’ll get off my soapbox now. I love all of you, have a great day :).

    • Wren 🪐@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Thank you for mentioning Libraries! As a librarian, I’m always getting shocked faces when I tell patrons what is accessible with their library card

      I used to pirate a lot of stuff, when I couldn’t afford it. Now I only pirate things that I a) already paid for (and want a more convenient way of using it or to ensure it can’t be taken away) b) can’t obtain any other way, or c) don’t know if I will like it, so I use the pirated version as a demo of sorts